Where do i start when doing Linkbuilding

[SEO Kid]

Greetings to all

I have now put all on-page factors in to place on my website and now I need to start building some good links. What sort of links could I get to get my site indexed firstly and then get my site ranking. What steps should I take when link building. Is there anything to look out for and things to avoid.

thanks

[Paz]

Hi,

there's lots of things to watch out for when getting backlinks.

Firstly, you can get pretty solid backlinks for free by submitting to one-way directories (directories that don't require a reciprocal link or a link back).

There's a good list here:
http://info.vilesilencer.com/?rock=seo-friendly.php

When you submit the details of your website, you'll be asked for a title and description. The title will be used as anchor text, so it's vital you choose a good keyword you want to target in the title. Similarly for the description.

Don't make the title and description too spammy though or the directory editor will reject your submission, if it's a quality directory.

Have a look around the directory first. With experience you'll soon see the difference between a quality directory and a page of links.

Make sure you find the relevant category for your site, and read the submision guidelines carefully. Some editors insist you use the company name in the title, or use spacers instead of commas for your keywords etc.

Keep a list of all the directories you submit to with title, description and date. This saves time and prevents you submitting to directories twice. It's also important that you don't repeat your titles and descriptions and that you do your best to make the link growth appear as "natural" as possible.

Also if you want a link growth pattern to appear natural in Google, don't get too many links at once. For a brand new site you can start with 4 or 5 links a day, incrementing gradually as your traffic from Google increases.

Google monitor backlinks over time and matches a sites growth with what Google searchers are looking for. If a new site suddenly gets lots of new links for "Blue widgets in Sidcup" and the number isn't matched by an increases in searches for that term, then you'll certainly get spanked in Google, which is why I said try and match your link growth with your Google traffic.

Later on you can think about article submissions, PR releases, and when you get a bit more experience, you can even go for sponsored directory listings.

Cheers,
Paz.

[daniel]

I think the most important thing to remember when getting backlinks is that Google will look at historical data over the website life cycle.

Any spike in the number of backlinks and the site may potentially be sandboxed.

So my advice is

1. keep getting good quality solid backlinks
2. make sure the backlink has pr ( ie: not banned -grey bar)
3. Keep the backlink growth constant
4. Keep all backlinks RELEVANT.
5 absolutely no pharmacy, ****, gambling backlinks ( unless your site content is gambling)

There are some great directories around that will provide a relevant trusted one way link. I would start with these.

Daniel

[Googler]

Any spike in the number of backlinks and the site may potentially be sandboxed.
Daniel

I do not fully agree with that statement as it has not been proven adn has too many variables standing in the way of that statement being true.

What if I had a type of news site...I dont do any link building...I depend only on people linking to me naturally because I provide good news.

And I post a brilliant article on the Tsunami on the day that it happened....Now because my news article is so good, other online magazines and news sites will link to it from reputable ones till crappy ones.

If your statement is true then my site should be penalized instead of ranking #1. According to Google it should be #1 as most news site are linking to me as I have the best article.

This could be applied to may industries other than news sites....Anything that is a sort of break-through in time or events....

[Paz]

What if I had a type of news site...I dont do any link building...I depend only on people linking to me naturally because I provide good news.

And I post a brilliant article on the Tsunami on the day that it happened....Now because my news article is so good, other online magazines and news sites will link to it from reputable ones till crappy ones.

If your statement is true then my site should be penalized instead of ranking #1. According to Google it should be #1 as most news site are linking to me as I have the best article.


Hi Welcome to the forum.... :D

Good point, but the difference between your news site is that the growth in your number of backlinks is matched by the number of new searches for the phrase "tsunami news" (say).

Google count each and every search and they are always looking for spikes that relates to hot topics. At the same time they are looking for where and when your backlinks are added and comparing that with their search data.

That's what daniel meant when he said historical data. You can't accumulate new links without a commensurate spike in searches by Google users

Cheers,
Paz.

[Blazingpie]

That's what daniel meant when he said historical data. You can't accumulate new links without a commensurate spike in searches by Google users

Cheers,
Paz.

Hmmm, id have to disagree with that in that it's not always the case. ive seen at least one site (www.urbandead.com) gain a massive amounts of backlinks in a very short space of time and shoot up the rankings for niche terms that i only found by trial and error (and this was when it was new).

However, these types of cases only occur with natural linking. the thing to remember with linkbuilding is that the less it looks like SEO, the better.

[Paz]

LOL

urban dead has got 70,000 domain backlinks in Yahoo, with authoritative links from:
Digg
Boing Boing
slashdot
Wikpedia
furl
feedburner
etc....

and right at the bottom in term of authority:
dmoz.

That's a monster happening site, but you can't compare it with a bread and butter site someone is trying to get started with a link campaign...

Were you involved with urban dead? :D

Cheers,
Paz.

[Blazingpie]

LOL

urban dead has got 70,000 domain backlinks in Yahoo, with authoritative links from:
Digg
Boing Boing
slashdot
Wikpedia
furl
feedburner
etc....

and right at the bottom in term of authority:
dmoz.

That's a monster happening site, but you can't compare it with a bread and butter site someone is trying to get started with a link campaign...

Were you involved with urban dead? :D

Cheers,
Paz.

lol, i wish :p If u mean play it, then ja, i used to for a while but Im a casual gamer and power-gamers put me off. Na, I found it via a blog entry, and as I was curious about this I started looking at the SEO for the site. I mean, a zombie MMORPG is a pretty small niche term :)

[kenneth.robert]

you have completed on page seo. and now you want link building of your site. so now you can start article submission, directory submission,forum posting and blog posting. www.ezinearticles.com is very good site for article submission.

[GeBo]

ok but how exactly you measure google traffic
use their adword traffic estimator?

[IM Fanatics]

Hi Welcome to the forum.... :D



Google count each and every search and they are always looking for spikes that relates to hot topics. At the same time they are looking for where and when your backlinks are added and comparing that with their search data.


Cheers,
Paz.

Greetings

If you have a system that you can provide a massive amount of quality links to your main site then all I suggest is that you make them tag orientated so that there are many long tail keywords in anchor text directing to your site.........

Don't always use the same keywords as tags.....that way the search data google is recording will think it's spammy.......keep in mind however that you still want the keywords to be relevant to your niche from and LSI point of view........

I've gained 200 links in 24 hours before dominating the first 5 pages as a lot of those links were searchable in the serps...........first 50 positions 27 listed entries all pointing to my main site.....

Test and Test again but don't waste time....if it's not working move on.......you can throw up a blog.....write 1 article......blast to bookmarking sites......still a video if you like.......blast to directories........submit feeds to rss directories and agregators and see results in 24hours........

Pss.......and remember most of the directories and agregators have there own feeds as well..........

Anyone up for 3 way backlinks???

Got to love the internet

[usainternetmarketing]

This is the step by step activity for your link building campaign:
-Write some reviews and try to publish them on top blogs related to your website.
-Write press release and submit it into top PR sites.
-Start submitting links in web directories.
-Guest posting
-Blog post submissions
-Social bookmarking
-Article submissions
-Forum postings
-Blog commenting.
-Classified postings.