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[sapokershop]

Hi Guys

I finally managed to find a South African forum for help on SEO.

I have started an online website which has been up and running for about 3 months now and would really appreciate any help/advice on how to start ranking on google etc.

I am very new to SEO as well as html development but i try learn as much as possible.I have been changing the site as much as possible to help it rank better.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

p.s if i dont respond to your e-mail straight away it's because im reading all the articles on this forum :)

Thank you,

[daniel]

Hi Matt

Welcome to the forum. I will def be giving my thoughts to your site, i will do it today as soon as i have a chance

Daniel

[sapokershop]

Hi Daniel

Thanks for the response, I look forward to hearing your opinion.

Matt

[Blazingpie]

Hey, matt

too a quick glance at your site, and the onpage stuff is looking good. One change i'd recogmend is changing all the Home links to point to the domain name and not index.htm, this will prevent duplicate content penalties and help concentrate any PR the domain name gets.

A biggie would be to change the links page. Change it to something like "resources" or "sites of interest" or any BUT "links". It screams seo and looks bad :( Also, the way the links page is set up also screams SEO and you'll have a difficult time getting that page indexed. Links pages are losing usefullness FAST, but here is a way to help prolong their usefulness:

Instead of having the layout like this:

Online Football Betting at Bodog! <-link
All the best NFL odds and lines at Bodog Sportsbook! <-text


try make it flow, like a blog or article, eg have a short paragraph for each link:

blah blah blah blah blah blah Online Football Betting at Bodog rocks! blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

one step further would even be (if you had enough of the same sort of links) to group them all together and make a small, themed page, eg Online-Football-Betting.html. That way, you would have a highly targetted page that wouldnt necessarily scream seo (and thus raise a flag) and would be indexed quicker.

[sapokershop]

Hey, matt

too a quick glance at your site, and the onpage stuff is looking good. One change i'd recogmend is changing all the Home links to point to the domain name and not index.htm, this will prevent duplicate content penalties and help concentrate any PR the domain name gets.

A biggie would be to change the links page. Change it to something like "resources" or "sites of interest" or any BUT "links". It screams seo and looks bad :( Also, the way the links page is set up also screams SEO and you'll have a difficult time getting that page indexed. Links pages are losing usefullness FAST, but here is a way to help prolong their usefulness:

Instead of having the layout like this:

Online Football Betting at Bodog! <-link
All the best NFL odds and lines at Bodog Sportsbook! <-text


try make it flow, like a blog or article, eg have a short paragraph for each link:

blah blah blah blah blah blah Online Football Betting at Bodog rocks! blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

one step further would even be (if you had enough of the same sort of links) to group them all together and make a small, themed page, eg Online-Football-Betting.html. That way, you would have a highly targetted page that wouldnt necessarily scream seo (and thus raise a flag) and would be indexed quicker.

Hey Blazing

Thank you for your feedback.

So you are saying i should point all the pages currently pointing to index.html to http://www.sapokershop.co.za ?

I didnt know that if you have a links.html page it makes it difficult to index, but we learn new things every day :) i think the best bet would be to make a gambling page where i would list all the sites related to that specific type of gambling.

This is going to take some time but im sure it would be worth it.

I have been monitoring my rank for certain keywords on google.co.za for a few days. check out the data and tell me what you think. Still need to do quite a bit of optimization on my pages content so im sure i can get to top 5 atleast.

Date Time Search Engine Keyword Position
13/09/2006 8:37am Google Poker Chips 66
13/09/2006 8:37am Google Poker Chip Sets 44
13/09/2006 8:37am Google Card Shuffler 9
13/09/2006 8:37am Google Card Shufflers 7
13/09/2006 8:37am Google Poker Tables 82
13/09/2006 8:37am Google Dealer Shoe 3

Date Time Search Engine Keyword Position
13/09/2006 4.19pm Google Poker Chips 57
13/09/2006 4.19pm Google Poker Chip Sets 44
13/09/2006 4.19pm Google Card Shuffler 9
13/09/2006 4.19pm Google Card Shufflers 7
13/09/2006 4.19pm Google Poker Tables 82
13/09/2006 4.19pm Google Dealer Shoe 3

Date Time Search Engine Keyword Position
14/09/2006 8:37am Google Poker Chips 52
14/09/2006 8:37am Google Poker Chip Sets 42
14/09/2006 8:37am Google Card Shuffler 9
14/09/2006 8:37am Google Card Shufflers 7
14/09/2006 8:37am Google Poker Tables 79
14/09/2006 8:37am Google Dealer Shoe 3

Date Time Search Engine Keyword Position
15/09/2006 8:34am Google Poker Chips 55
15/09/2006 8:34am Google Poker Chip Sets 42
15/09/2006 8:34am Google Card Shuffler 9
15/09/2006 8:34am Google Card Shufflers 7
15/09/2006 8:34am Google Poker Tables 59
15/09/2006 8:34am Google Dealer Shoe 5

Date Time Search Engine Keyword Position
17/09/2006 8:37am Google Poker Chips 54
17/09/2006 8:37am Google Poker Chip Sets 45
17/09/2006 8:37am Google Card Shuffler 10
17/09/2006 8:37am Google Card Shufflers 6
17/09/2006 8:37am Google Poker Tables 51
17/09/2006 8:37am Google Dealer Shoe 7

Date Time Search Engine Keyword Position
19/09/2006 5:01pm Google Poker Chips 41
19/09/2006 5:01pm Google Poker Chip Sets 32
19/09/2006 5:01pm Google Card Shuffler 8
19/09/2006 5:01pm Google Card Shufflers 6
19/09/2006 5:01pm Google Poker Tables 48
19/09/2006 5:01pm Google Dealer Shoe 2

Thank again.

Let me know if you think of anything else

Matt

[Blazingpie]

So you are saying i should point all the pages currently pointing to index.html to http://www.sapokershop.co.za ?



yeah :)


I didnt know that if you have a links.html page it makes it difficult to index, but we learn new things every day :) i think the best bet would be to make a gambling page where i would list all the sites related to that specific type of gambling.

This is going to take some time but im sure it would be worth it.


Yeah, it is, especially when you're targetting a competitive industry like gambling. Even the smallest possible problem should not exist if at all possible!

I have been monitoring my rank for certain keywords on google.co.za for a few days. check out the data and tell me what you think. Still need to do quite a bit of optimization on my pages content so im sure i can get to top 5 atleast.

I'll have a look at the rankings when i get the chance :) So far they look pretty decent

[sapokershop]

Hi there

I am in the process of optomizing the website pages pointing to http://www.sapokershop.co.za instead of index.html also creating a new page name to be used instead of links.
I just done a check with a domain stats tool and i am very confused :cry:
These are the results:

Domain Name sapokershop.co.za


Statistics - General

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Age Unable to Determine

IP Address 196.41.3.149

Country (hosted in)

Alexa Traffic Rank 1,531,002

Avg. Load Time 0 seconds


Statistics - Google

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Backlinks 0

Backlinks (with www) 5

Pages Indexed 35
(includes pages of EVERY subdomain, eg. *.sapokershop.co.za)

Pages Indexed 34
(includes pages of ONLY www.sapokershop.co.za)


Statistics - Yahoo

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WebRank

Backlinks 0

Backlinks (with www) 48

Pages Indexed 26
(includes pages of EVERY subdomain, eg. *.sapokershop.co.za)

Pages Indexed 26
(includes pages of ONLY www.sapokershop.co.za)


Statistics - MSN

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Backlinks 54

Backlinks (with www) 52

Pages Indexed 8
(includes pages of EVERY subdomain, eg. *.sapokershop.co.za)

Pages Indexed 1
(includes pages of ONLY www.sapokershop.co.za)

My Ranking on MSN for a few of my keywords is doing very well :
Poker Chips 1
Poker Chip Sets 4
Card Shuffler 1
Poker Tables 3
Dealer Shoe 1

My Question is Why do i have so many Backlinks with MSN and not with Google Yahoo?

Please can someone help.

Thank you

[Paz]

Hi Matt,

don't worry about the "missing links" in Google. They've not shown all the links they know about for years. They show a random sample instead.

Yahoo filters out links from your own domain, and MSN is much better at sniffing out links that other search engines would ignore; links from pages with session ID's for example.

You'll need a lot more links to rank in the market you are competing for. Also looking around your site, I see you are targeting "shop" quite hard. I'd spread my net a bit wider and try at the same time for "online + " "shop" "store" "wholesaler" etc, maybe "poker products/consumables".

I'd also add more shopping keywords, especially on the home page. These would be "buy" "discount" "special offer" "purchase" "order"... LOL... I guess you get the idea. I'd also add a "Terms and Conditions" page with lots of shopping keyword text. I'd also think about adding a shopping cart; another surefire sign that it's a shop.

Cheers,
Paz.

Cheers,
Paz.

[sapokershop]

Hi Paz

Thanks alot for all the info.

I unfortunately have been overseas for a while and have not been able to do any work on the site. Do you do SEO for a living ?
I am looking for somebody to do the SEO on my Site and i also need a quote for the ecommerce.
If you will be able to help either reply on here or drop me a e-mail sapokershop@webmail.co.za

Thank you.

Matthew

[Chatmaster]

I am refering your site to Piggs Peak as well...

[daniel]

Give me a pm and we can have a chat

[sapokershop]

Hi There

Thanks for the replies.

Chatmaster i have tried to get into contact with piggspeak on various occasions and have ended up fruitless every single time so i have given up on them.

Best way to search for sites willing to exchange links?

Matthew

[Chatmaster]

Hi Matt

For some reason I have completely missed this thread for a while, I am truly sorry about that. We can certainly do a few link trades if you are interested. But these will be unconventional and only contextual on new pages to your internal pages. Do you own any other poker related sites or blogs?

[Chatmaster]

Forgot to add I get a 404 on your onlinepokersites page.

[Paz]

Also Chatmaster is too modest to boast about it, but he has his own forum where most of the members are casino and poker site owners; SA Marketing (http://www.samarketing.co.za/forum/default.asp). Perhaps you should have a look there.

[Chatmaster]

Thanks, Paz. Yah, there are some members there that can definately help you with a few backlinks, BiggestB is top of your list, he has allot of poker sites, There is allot of valuable links available and probably more than 200 poker sites between the members there. Although there are only 20 members they are all super affiliates in the online gambling industry and good people to work with. Feel free to join and ask for links! We love people like that :)

[sapokershop]

Hi Guys

Thank you so much for all the info. I have just registered on your site Chatmaster so I will message you soon. Things have been really really hectic over the past few weeks thats why im oly replying now.

Original Rankings for keywords:

Date Time Search Engine Keyword Position
19/09/2006 5:01pm Google Poker Chips 41
19/09/2006 5:01pm Google Poker Chip Sets 32
19/09/2006 5:01pm Google Card Shuffler 8
19/09/2006 5:01pm Google Card Shufflers 6
19/09/2006 5:01pm Google Poker Tables 48
19/09/2006 5:01pm Google Dealer Shoe 2

Rankings as of Today on Google.co.za

29/01/2007 9:07am Google Poker Chips 1
29/01/2007 9:07am Google Poker Chip 1
29/01/2007 9:07am Google Poker Chip Sets 6
29/01/2007 9:07am Google Poker Chip Set 5
29/01/2007 9:07am Google Card Shuffler 1
29/01/2007 9:07am Google Card Shufflers 1
29/01/2007 9:07am Google Poker Tables 1
29/01/2007 9:07am Google Dealer Shoe 1
29/01/2007 9:07am Google Poker 1
29/01/2007 9:07am Google Poker Shop 1
Many other high rankings also doing well in google.com

29/01/2007 9:07am Google Poker Shop 2
29/01/2007 9:07am Google Poker Chips 2
29/01/2007 9:07am Google Poker Chip 7


I still have many many pages that are almost finished being developed and should be launched within the next couple of weeks which should see my rankings for some other keywords do well two.

Please let me know what you guys think of this...

Regards,

Matt

[Chatmaster]

Hi Matt, I have a site I can help you with some contextual backlinks on, www.pokersouthafrica.co.za
Do you possibly have some press releases that I can release on there? Keywords I wish you to target is keywords like 'Poker Table', 'poker chips' and 'poker chip sets'. I would gladly link back back to your site to the applicable pages contextually you do not need to return any links.

[bradmarais]

Hi Guys

I finally managed to find a South African forum for help on SEO.

I have started an online website which has been up and running for about 3 months now and would really appreciate any help/advice on how to start ranking on google etc.

I am very new to SEO as well as html development but i try learn as much as possible.I have been changing the site as much as possible to help it rank better.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

p.s if i dont respond to your e-mail straight away it's because im reading all the articles on this forum :)

Thank you,
Hi Mat

It seems your site is doing realy well in the search results. I think you have a unique niche that you are in because here in SA we dont have many of these sites. This helps you in the long hall because as your site gets older so the trust with Google gets even better. Best of luck mate and weldone with your business...balls to the wall.

[Dav2id34]

Thanks for the response, I look forward to hearing your opinion.

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